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Type s axle warning light after fitting new wheels?

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Type s axle warning light after fitting new wheels?

Post by 106pete » Wed Apr 25, 2012 8:50 am

Last night we fitted a new set of wheels with 205/55/16 tyres instead of 205/50/16 tyres to the rear of a type s, at the same time we also fitted new front disk.

Since doin this the car has thrown up a warning light that looks like an axle but were not sure what's caused it, could the tyres cause this or have we messed up something on the front?

Any ideas?

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Post by Merlin » Wed Apr 25, 2012 9:26 am

You have different profile tyres on the front (55) compared to the rear (50)? If so I think that will be your problem. Have you got the ATTS fault code?
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Post by NafemanNathan » Wed Apr 25, 2012 9:35 am

I have no clue about ATTS, but wouldn't different tyre circumferances and therefore different rolling speeds front and back screw up the calibration?

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Post by lewd lude lover » Wed Apr 25, 2012 10:39 am

yep. even a stone lodged in the tyre tread will throw a code.

very sensitive if out of whack.
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Post by 106pete » Wed Apr 25, 2012 11:19 am

We haven't pullled the code but yeah I think it's the tyres throwing out the atts but were gonna get some new ones tonight and hope it'll just clear itself??

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Post by NafemanNathan » Wed Apr 25, 2012 11:23 am

If a stone in the tread is enough to through a cell, wouldn't uneven wear between front and back tyres throw a cell too?

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Post by lewd lude lover » Wed Apr 25, 2012 11:48 am

thanks nathan your opinion is valued. What you have to say is important and valid. well done. :tosser:

by changing the rotational speeds of the wheels you are confusing the wheel speed sensors so atts is unable to sum the wheels input. this will throw a code as your messing with the preset values atts works to.
Atts will throw a code when it feels an obvious and fast onset change in balance between wheels. As i said. if you pick up a decent size stone in your tread you will throw a code as the system treats this as a hazard to operation. which it is.
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Post by NafemanNathan » Wed Apr 25, 2012 12:05 pm

lewd lude lover wrote:thanks nathan your opinion is valued. What you have to say is important and valid. well done. :tosser:
Thank you :D :lol:

In reference to my "sensible" related comment though... Does that mean uneven tyre wear would throw a code? Going by what you have just said, I assume it would. And therefore as with most thrown CELs does it then go into safe mode?

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Post by lewd lude lover » Wed Apr 25, 2012 1:27 pm

no. uneven tyre wear would be a slow unbalance and would not give atts a jump to account for. in this situation it would adapt.

but if your geo is properly out it would probably throw a code so you could get it sorted.
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Post by NafemanNathan » Wed Apr 25, 2012 1:31 pm

Got ya. I see that's what you meant by "when it feels an obvious and fast onset change in balance between wheels" now ;-) Thanks :)

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