Has anyone fitted a 4th gen traction bar yet?

Post by **Merlin** » Tue Mar 04, 2014 10:25 am

Sorry man

Hmmm, I don't like the idea of having no front mount.

Post by **Merlin** » Tue Mar 04, 2014 10:29 am

Also I take it that the lower centre beam is deleted when using this kit?

Post by **NafemanNathan** » Tue Mar 04, 2014 10:35 am

Nothing two rod-ends and a bit of steel bar can't sort

Something I considered getting made up for the group if I'm honest, but wouldn't be until I had mine fitted

And yeah, you delete the centre beam... So it wouldn't matter if it was bent or not

89 UKDM BA4 4WS (resto job!) · Post by **wurlycorner** » Tue Mar 04, 2014 10:56 am

Yep si import did this with an innovate one. IIRC there are pics of it being installed in the profile thread for his white one, so take a looksee there.

It has no front mount - I remember asking him about this when I noticed it (had some thoughts/concerns as you Merlin) and has no problems with it like that, despite doing track days/drag times

Can't remember if he has ES polybushed mounts/innovate uprated mounts to compensate for it though?

Post by **NafemanNathan** » Tue Mar 04, 2014 11:03 am

si had the Innovative mounts as well.

Post by **Merlin** » Tue Mar 04, 2014 11:15 am

I don't have as good mounts as those. I only have ES inserts on 3 and sikaflex in the other

It was a cost I was prepared to cut. Not to worry as I have emailed Explicit and will start talking with them.

mynameisowen · Post by **mynameisowen** » Tue Mar 04, 2014 1:24 pm

They look really heavy! For a track car are you really going to notice the benefits over the added weight at the very front of the chassis?

89 UKDM BA4 4WS (resto job!) · Post by **wurlycorner** » Tue Mar 04, 2014 1:35 pm

The inovate one is lighter than the oem stuff you remove I would say. Not sure about Explicit one - that looks like a proper bit of scaffolding!!!

They have other advantages though I think, beside weight - stiffer, less 'shunt' movement in the suspension arms under traction/braking and allows you to fine-tune the suspension adjustment more.

That's the theory, right?

Post by **Merlin** » Tue Mar 04, 2014 1:43 pm

mynameisowen wrote:They look really heavy! For a track car are you really going to notice the benefits over the added weight at the very front of the chassis?

It is about setup

. With traction bars you can adjust caster (the main reason I want one), while there is no caster adjustment with OEM radius rods.

Post by **NafemanNathan** » Tue Mar 04, 2014 1:43 pm

I haven't actually got weights for any of them, but under race conditions the benefit of additional traction from having a proper traction bar fitted outweights (no pun intended) what little if any additional weight gain it'll give over OEM.

I know ESP ones are a fair bit heavier than Innovative, which is one reason I was sold on Innovative. On smaller Hondas tractions bars are generally heavier than the OEM front cross member. Not so much the case with Preludes.