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Swap 94 analogue dash for digital 96

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Post by wurlycorner » Wed Feb 19, 2014 11:53 am

c_doughty1 wrote:Ok yes mine is ukdm and I'm going to try and pick up a digital ukdm one too, I've got all the wiring diagrams so I should be ok....but I'm no auto electrician. I make kitchens for a living.
I'll do you a deal...

:twisted: Once I've experimented with my 2 and got it down to a T - I'll fit your dials for you, in return for a new kitchen. How's that sound? :D

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Post by wurlycorner » Wed Feb 19, 2014 11:55 am

Donald wrote:wurly is only one of those engineers that can plug in a washing machine, dishwasher, etc.
:evil: I'll have you know I haven't advanced to dishwashers yet!!!

:whistle: When Mr doughty does my new kitchen though, I should finally have room for the dishwasher! :D

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Post by prelude91 » Wed Feb 19, 2014 11:57 am

I need a new kitchen, I don't need a new dash, tho', just some more suncream lotion for my burnt skin here in NZ!!!

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Post by indigolemon » Wed Feb 19, 2014 11:59 am

wurlycorner wrote:
  • Firstly, there is no 'grey' connector anywhere, they are green and yellow.
    Secondly, reading that guide suggests there is little difference between the pre/post facelist looms. Unfortunately there seem to be quite a lot! (both in terms of number of wires per connector, pin outs and not forgetting that one connector is on a completely different side of the binnacle!)
    Thirdly, that guide suggests there is an extra earth on one side but less wires on the other side. Unfortunately that's not what I found - there are 3 more wires in total on the el dials in comparison to pre-facelift.
Hang on, are you replacing the whole dash loom? IE, the one that plugs in to the right of the pedals, runs up and across the whole dash, and ends in a plug to the left of the passenger footwell? That's what the guide assumes (I know cos I wrote it).
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Post by wurlycorner » Wed Feb 19, 2014 12:08 pm

indigolemon wrote:Hang on, are you replacing the whole dash loom? IE, the one that plugs in to the right of the pedals, runs up and across the whole dash, and ends in a plug to the left of the passenger footwell? That's what the guide assumes (I know cos I wrote it).
Ah no, I'm not - I don't have the whole dash loom. I'm looking to use/modify the existing.
Sorry, I obviously misinterpreted this bit of the guide;
I finally got my hands on a Post-Facelift UKDM Dash Loom, and after looking at the plugs realised where it connected to the rest of the car it was pretty much identical to my Pre-Facelift loom.
to mean once you compared the whole looms against each other and found they were pretty much identical.
Now I understand (bit I've put in italics) you only mean the plugs on the outer ends of the loom were basically the same so didn't need much modification on the car side, to get it to connect up correctly :oops:

Sorry if my previous post came across as criticism.
Either way, I'll update for those that don't get hold of the original loom (most sellers seem relectant to remove that IME)

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Post by indigolemon » Wed Feb 19, 2014 12:20 pm

wurlycorner wrote:Sorry if my previous post came across as criticism.
I was deeply offended, been crying for the past ten minutes :cry:
wurlycorner wrote:Either way, I'll update for those that don't get hold of the original loom (most sellers seem relectant to remove that IME)
I know, took me ages to get a hold of one. Made things a lot more simple though, any facelift UK breaker on here might sort you out?
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Post by wurlycorner » Wed Feb 19, 2014 12:25 pm

:lol: I could hear it from here, that's why I appologised! ;)

Haven't seen a facelift breaker on here for ages that I can recall. The car's in bits now and I need to get it back together, so I'll push on and get it sorted the old fashioned way... I know how to swap pins about in the original plugs (did it on the mirror/door looms) so TBH, It might even end up being less hassle than the alternative loom swap, which involves much destroying of hands? :?

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Post by indigolemon » Wed Feb 19, 2014 12:28 pm

wurlycorner wrote:I know how to swap pins about in the original plugs (did it on the mirror/door looms) so TBH, It might even end up being less hassle than the alternative loom swap, which involves much destroying of hands? :?
Go for it man, likely your quickest way out now. I know it worked fine for Ammo that way!

Updated the wiki to make it clearer too :)
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Post by Confused » Wed Feb 19, 2014 12:42 pm

I had my UKDM el cluster fitted to a JDM car - the wiring modifications were actually done by Stan in the back of my Lancer in a car park in Great Yarmouth! :)

There were a few wires to extend and re-route, but it didn't take too long.

@c_doughty1, give me a shout and I'll give you a hand, I've got all the necessary kit here, and can understand the wiring diagrams, and what better excuse to meet up!!

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Re: Swap 94 analogue dash for digital 96

Post by c_doughty1 » Wed Feb 19, 2014 1:56 pm

I'm amateur at best, I follow advice plus the manuals I've downloaded n try my best I'll get there in the end....

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