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Ferodo DS2500 not road legal?
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Post by knightmare » Thu Mar 14, 2013 8:51 pm
But thats not the point being made, it doesn't mention anything to do with MOT. It's stating that the pads are illegal for road use like the example made about the corsa. You could be in a way invalidating your insurance by using a part that doesn't conform. ...Merlin wrote:I have always passed with Hawk pads. Does the MOT guy check the brand of your pads? I reccon only the most asshatish of MOT guys would fail you.
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Post by RattyMcClelland » Thu Mar 14, 2013 9:17 pm
Just ignore it. They stop you dont they? Better than cheap pads?
Well then.
Well then.


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Post by A1ex » Thu Mar 14, 2013 9:24 pm
RattyMcClelland wrote:Just ignore it. They stop you dont they? Better than cheap pads?
Well then.

The law is full of these sort of things. I you look hard enough into it you've probably done several things wrong today already!
Did anyone practice their longbow on Sunday morning before going to church last week? It's the law, still is as well too I think
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Re: Ferodo DS2500 not road legal?
Post by FrontBackSide2Side » Thu Mar 14, 2013 9:38 pm
its ok until your in an accident and they want to check your pads. Its up to the individual whether to take the risk or not but its good to make aware that it could land you in trouble.
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Post by mart609 » Fri Mar 15, 2013 9:01 am
My car was built in 1993? does that mean I'm fine to use them then?European legislation came into effect September 1999 titled ECE R90 that stipulates that all brake pads sold for use on vehicles manufactured after this date must be tested and comply to R90 standards.
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Post by Merlin » Fri Mar 15, 2013 10:10 am
The MOT guy is the only one who will realistically enforce it.knightmare wrote:But thats not the point being made, it doesn't mention anything to do with MOT. It's stating that the pads are illegal for road use like the example made about the corsa. You could be in a way invalidating your insurance by using a part that doesn't conform. ...Merlin wrote:I have always passed with Hawk pads. Does the MOT guy check the brand of your pads? I reccon only the most asshatish of MOT guys would fail you.
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Post by bb1boy » Fri Mar 15, 2013 10:59 am
ECE R90 is only an issue for cars built after September 1999.
Also, on the Ferodo page http://www.ferodo.com/en-gb/OurPromise/ ... ality.aspx it states, "All our pads are R90 compliant and go through extensive research, development and road testing to ensure safe, controlled and consistent braking. We make sure that every product meets OE quality standards – for all characteristics and in every condition."
Also, on the Ferodo page http://www.ferodo.com/en-gb/OurPromise/ ... ality.aspx it states, "All our pads are R90 compliant and go through extensive research, development and road testing to ensure safe, controlled and consistent braking. We make sure that every product meets OE quality standards – for all characteristics and in every condition."
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Post by Space1999 » Fri Mar 15, 2013 11:51 am
There's two things here - first whether the MOT tester will pass it, and second whether it's road legal. Just because the tester gives you a ticket doesn't mean your car is still 100% road legal, it just means he didn't spot your mod. So if you use non-approved parts, have an accident and then the insurance company sends in a 'CSI Miami' team of forensic investigators, you can still get done.
Basically, insurance companies will find any reason they can not to pay out and if they find you don't have road-legal stuff on your car they'll say you've breached their terms and conditions, and therefore aren't insured. Plod will then step in and do you for driving without insurance! So I'd say be careful, and if in doubt, don't mod it...
It's interesting to note that between (depending on who you ask) 75% and 85% of all UK law now comes from the European Union, and they're very good at introducing bonkers laws. Just recently, we came within spitting distance of a new law being passed that outlawed ALL modified cars - the proposal said that any car now must be to exactly the same spec as when it was new. That caused the classic car clubs to go mental as it would mean going back to crossplies and drum brakes on Morris Minors, etc., which is far less safe! Oh, and you'd even have to remove your halogen headlights and put the sealed beams back in! It was only at the last minute that intense lobbying from the UK and Germany stopped this. If it had been passed there would have been nothing Britain could have done about it, as we don't govern ourselves anymore - tragically.
Don't want to frighten you, but that's the way the wind is blowing - more and more rules and regulations on the way folks...
Basically, insurance companies will find any reason they can not to pay out and if they find you don't have road-legal stuff on your car they'll say you've breached their terms and conditions, and therefore aren't insured. Plod will then step in and do you for driving without insurance! So I'd say be careful, and if in doubt, don't mod it...
It's interesting to note that between (depending on who you ask) 75% and 85% of all UK law now comes from the European Union, and they're very good at introducing bonkers laws. Just recently, we came within spitting distance of a new law being passed that outlawed ALL modified cars - the proposal said that any car now must be to exactly the same spec as when it was new. That caused the classic car clubs to go mental as it would mean going back to crossplies and drum brakes on Morris Minors, etc., which is far less safe! Oh, and you'd even have to remove your halogen headlights and put the sealed beams back in! It was only at the last minute that intense lobbying from the UK and Germany stopped this. If it had been passed there would have been nothing Britain could have done about it, as we don't govern ourselves anymore - tragically.

Don't want to frighten you, but that's the way the wind is blowing - more and more rules and regulations on the way folks...
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