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4ws weird intermittent
Posted: Tue May 20, 2014 12:23 pm
by c_doughty1
Ok I've recently had my 4ws steering fixed thanks to @confused but now it's having a tantrum....it's working most of the time but it's throwing an error code that I can't find.
The 4ws light flashes 7 times slowly which does a repeated cycle of that about 6 or 7 times then flashes I would say 12 to 15 times but crazy fast.
Also at the same time I now have error code 12 for egr again which both have come at the exact same time.
Any advice / help would be greatly appreciated.
If I turn car off an on again the 4ws will start working again so I'm confused.
Posted: Tue May 20, 2014 12:26 pm
by Merlin
http://www.ludegeneration.co.uk/honda-p ... -t699.html
Could it be an ignition fault? Or intermittent power to the 4WS ECU?
Re: 4WS Ecu Codes
Posted: Tue May 20, 2014 12:30 pm
by c_doughty1
Lude-dude wrote:Applies to 4th & 5th generations as far as I know:
Code: Select all
Code System 4ws control unit pins Affected
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10 Sub steering angle sensor 22, 26 Front sub steering angle sensor
11 Sub steering angle sensor 29, 17 Rear sub steering angle sensor
12 Sub steering angle sensor 26, 21 Front sub steering angle sensor
13 Sub steering angle sensor 17, 28 Rear sub steering angle sensor
14 Sub steering angle sensor NA 4ws control unit
15 Sub steering angle sensor NA 4ws control unit
16 Sub steering angle sensor 22, 26, 21 Front sub steering angle sensor
17 Sub steering angle sensor 29, 17, 28 Rear sub steering angle sensor
18 Sub steering angle sensor NA 4ws control unit
20 Main steering angle sensor 08, 15 Front sub steering angle sensor,
Front main steering angle sensor
21 Main steering angle sensor 06, 13 Rear sub steering angle sensor,
Rear main steering angle sensor
22 Main steering angle sensor 08, 15 Front sub steering angle sensor,
Front main steering angle sensor
23 Main steering angle sensor 06, 13 Rear sub steering angle sensor,
Rear main steering angle sensor
24 Main steering angle sensor 08, 15 Front sub steering angle sensor,
Front main steering angle sensor
25 Main steering angle sensor 06, 13 Rear sub steering angle sensor,
Rear main steering angle sensor
26 Main steering angle sensor NA 4ws control unit
27 Main steering angle sensor NA 4ws control unit
28 Main steering angle sensor 12 Front sub steering angle sensor,
Front main steering angle sensor
29 Main steering angle sensor 20 Rear sub steering angle sensor,
Rear main steering angle sensor
30 Wheel speed 19 Front wheel speed sensor
31 Wheel speed 03 Rear left wheel speed sensor
32 Wheel speed 01 Rear right wheel speed sensor
33 Wheel speed 03, 01 ABS control unit,
4ws control unit
34 Wheel speed 19 Front wheel speed sensor
35 Wheel speed 03 Rear left wheel sensor,
ABScontrol unit,
4ws control unit
36 Wheel speed 01 Rear right wheel speed sensor
37 Wheel speed NA 4ws control unit
38 Wheel speed NA 4ws control unit
40 4ws control unit NA 4ws control unit
41 4ws control unit NA 4ws control unit
42 4ws control unit NA 4ws control unit
43 4ws control unit NA 4ws control unit
44 4ws control unit NA 4ws control unit
45 4ws control unit NA 4ws control unit
46 4ws control unit NA 4ws control unit
50 Control logic C+, D Rear actuator motor
51 Control logic C+, D Rear actuator motor
60 Power unit C+, D , 33+, 34 Rear actuator motor,
Power system harness
61 Power unit C+, D Rear actuator motor,
Power system harness
62 Power unit 33+, 34 Rear actuator motor,
Power system harness
63 Power unit NA Rear actuator motor,
Power system harness
64 Power unit NA 4ws control unit
65 Power unit NA 4ws control unit
70 - Ignition is turned from OFF to ON while driving.
71 - The car is driven aggressively with four people in the car, or the rear wheel is blocked by the kerb.
73 - The engine is started while quick-charging the battery
74 - Driving the car with the parking brake ON
The code is 7 though? What would 70 be? Flash wise
Posted: Tue May 20, 2014 12:37 pm
by Merlin
Code 70 = 7 long flashes.
c_doughty1 wrote:The 4ws light flashes 7 times slowly
Re: 4ws weird intermittent
Posted: Tue May 20, 2014 12:42 pm
by c_doughty1
Merlin wrote:Code 70 = 7 long flashes.
c_doughty1 wrote:The 4ws light flashes 7 times slowly
Right ok that makes sense, so how do I fix it?
Re: 4ws weird intermittent
Posted: Tue May 20, 2014 12:43 pm
by c_doughty1
Because I don't turn my ignition off then on whilst I'm driving that would be rather dangerous
Posted: Tue May 20, 2014 12:43 pm
by Merlin
Are there any other symptoms?
Posted: Tue May 20, 2014 12:54 pm
by Dbo
When mine did this... if it resets on ignition off and then works again without doing the fuse pull for ecu reset...
then on mine it was a bad earth....
where the 4ws ecu in boot earths to body... i scrapped some paint away and fitted a nut and bolt through another hole and did up real tight.... it fixed mine....
Re: 4ws weird intermittent
Posted: Tue May 20, 2014 2:18 pm
by c_doughty1
Dbo wrote:When mine did this... if it resets on ignition off and then works again without doing the fuse pull for ecu reset...
then on mine it was a bad earth....
where the 4ws ecu in boot earths to body... i scrapped some paint away and fitted a nut and bolt through another hole and did up real tight.... it fixed mine....
Ok so you think maybe an earthing issue? I'll take the rear seat out n have a look then
Re: 4ws weird intermittent
Posted: Tue May 20, 2014 2:19 pm
by c_doughty1
Merlin wrote:Are there any other symptoms?
No none