Hi I have some apex lowering springs off a 5th Gen I would suppose they fit a 4th Gen sure someone will say either way you can pick up I'm in St Helens or I will post but they are heavy so bear that in mine I think they are 35-40 mm drop https://photos.app.goo.gl/7F6cry0wr29lo19c2 think I got the phphoto up for it even tapatalk won't let me in