Congratulations to vtecmec for winning May/June's Lude Of The Month, with his DIY Turbo BB1 build.

>>> Click Here For Profile <<<

Image

BB4 bye,bye

Tell us all about your Lude, you know you want to ...
User avatar
vanzep
Supporter 2016
Posts: 7152
Joined: Sun Jan 29, 2012 6:38 pm
My Generation: 4G
Location: Edinburgh
Has thanked: 309 times
Been thanked: 513 times

Re: Front Brake Upgrade - VTTR discs

Post by vanzep » Fri Jan 20, 2017 11:51 am

:)
1996-2000 1993 EG9 Blue Civic 1.6 Vti - Traded in against the BB4
2000-2019 1994 2WS BB4 Milano Red JDM Prelude Si VTEC LSD

2015 on > 1991 4WS BB1 Phantom Pearl Grey JDM Prelude Si VTEC LSD
2021 ON > 1998 2WS BB6 White Pearl JDM Prelude Si VTEC

User avatar
vanzep
Supporter 2016
Posts: 7152
Joined: Sun Jan 29, 2012 6:38 pm
My Generation: 4G
Location: Edinburgh
Has thanked: 309 times
Been thanked: 513 times

Rear Discs and Predator Pads

Post by vanzep » Fri Jan 27, 2017 9:42 pm

Plucked up the courage to tackle the rear brakes today :?
The MOT tester had said there was a slight bind on one caliper and an imbalance on the handbrake although it passed the test overall. So with that in mind and knowing that the rear brakes hadnt been touched in a good few years i knew it was going to be a challenge.
I also bought some upgrade rear pads Black Diamond predator pads - were just over £30 from demon tweeks on ebay.
Here are some pics of the pads:

Image
Image
Image
Image

Turned out be a bit of mission and one 10mm bolt decided it was no longer 10mm but 9mm across flats :evil:
There seems to be a bit of an issue with the handbrake cables - with one being far longer than the other - i did get one side replaced and this may be why there is such a mismatch in lengths - the equaliser is at full diagonal...hoping something will free up but i might have to revisit this again and look at fitting new calipers and one new handbrake cable :cry:
still brakes are miles improved over what they were

no pics as it was dark when i finished and had to do one side by torchlight :lol:
1996-2000 1993 EG9 Blue Civic 1.6 Vti - Traded in against the BB4
2000-2019 1994 2WS BB4 Milano Red JDM Prelude Si VTEC LSD

2015 on > 1991 4WS BB1 Phantom Pearl Grey JDM Prelude Si VTEC LSD
2021 ON > 1998 2WS BB6 White Pearl JDM Prelude Si VTEC

User avatar
vanzep
Supporter 2016
Posts: 7152
Joined: Sun Jan 29, 2012 6:38 pm
My Generation: 4G
Location: Edinburgh
Has thanked: 309 times
Been thanked: 513 times

Re: BB4 Brakes

Post by vanzep » Sun Jan 29, 2017 7:44 pm

Well brakes front and back are done.
Last piece of the puzzle was to reset the handbrake as it was way off :)
I fitted a new equaliser spring and got it all set up ok.The old spring was a bit mashed up. There is still some offset on the equaliser as one cable has been replaced and the other has obviously stretched over time but handbrake works on both sides so id call that a result :)
I wont be replacing any calipers or handbrake cables so thats a relief.

Image
1996-2000 1993 EG9 Blue Civic 1.6 Vti - Traded in against the BB4
2000-2019 1994 2WS BB4 Milano Red JDM Prelude Si VTEC LSD

2015 on > 1991 4WS BB1 Phantom Pearl Grey JDM Prelude Si VTEC LSD
2021 ON > 1998 2WS BB6 White Pearl JDM Prelude Si VTEC

User avatar
Merlin
Moderator
Posts: 12394
Joined: Fri Aug 06, 2010 9:04 am
My Generation: 5G
PSN GamerTag: Merlinbadman
Location: Edinburgh
Has thanked: 70 times
Been thanked: 304 times

Post by Merlin » Mon Jan 30, 2017 12:05 pm

Nice!
Image
BA8......... BB4......... BB8.........The JDM Muscle Bus

User avatar
lewie fraser
Posts: 348
Joined: Fri May 10, 2013 6:50 pm
My Generation: 4G
Location: Blairgowrie Perthshire

Post by lewie fraser » Tue Jan 31, 2017 9:10 am

Awesome mate.bet it's feeling sharp with the new brakes.
Your bb4 will be non abs yeah?

vtectom
Posts: 1145
Joined: Sat Feb 25, 2012 6:03 pm
My Generation: 4G

Post by vtectom » Tue Jan 31, 2017 9:24 am

Good work!
If you loosen off the handbrake adjuster & wind in
borh rear caliper pistons it can help balance out the
cables.

User avatar
vanzep
Supporter 2016
Posts: 7152
Joined: Sun Jan 29, 2012 6:38 pm
My Generation: 4G
Location: Edinburgh
Has thanked: 309 times
Been thanked: 513 times

Re: BB4 Brakes

Post by vanzep » Wed Feb 01, 2017 2:46 pm

Merlin wrote:Nice!
Thanks for testing the brakes out - its always good to get a second opinion ;)
lewie fraser wrote:Awesome mate.bet it's feeling sharp with the new brakes.
Your bb4 will be non abs yeah?
Brakes feel much better than stock so worth doing. Ive done discs and pads front and back (plus adjusted handbrake) on both my ludes for under a £100 in parts. :)
vtectom wrote:Good work!
If you loosen off the handbrake adjuster & wind in
both rear caliper pistons it can help balance out the
cables.
Good point but ive already done that. ;)
I took the centre console out for a couple of days and have readjusted the handbrake a few times as well- seems like the slack cable on one side has taken up a bit of tension - fitting the new equaliser spring also means things are sitting a bit better :)

just got to pluck up the courage to fit the 62mm 5th gen throttle body :)
car is running so well im not sure if making this change is a good idea :roll:
will probably do my usual "thinking about it" for a month or two then wondering why i didnt do it earlier :lol:

Image
Image
1996-2000 1993 EG9 Blue Civic 1.6 Vti - Traded in against the BB4
2000-2019 1994 2WS BB4 Milano Red JDM Prelude Si VTEC LSD

2015 on > 1991 4WS BB1 Phantom Pearl Grey JDM Prelude Si VTEC LSD
2021 ON > 1998 2WS BB6 White Pearl JDM Prelude Si VTEC

User avatar
lewie fraser
Posts: 348
Joined: Fri May 10, 2013 6:50 pm
My Generation: 4G
Location: Blairgowrie Perthshire

Post by lewie fraser » Wed Feb 01, 2017 3:12 pm

Give it a better clean before it goes on ;)
I'd proberly repaint it silver again :lol:

When you fit your atr manifold I ll buy this off you when it's modified to fit the h22a inlet :lol:

User avatar
TheHondaTuner
Posts: 132
Joined: Tue Mar 15, 2016 4:14 pm
My Generation: 4G
PSN GamerTag: TheHondaTuner
Location: Frankfurt, Germany
Been thanked: 5 times

Post by TheHondaTuner » Fri Feb 03, 2017 6:57 pm

If you dont mess up the sensors it cant get worse with a slightly bigger TB. Why did you choose these discs? Any good experience yet?
Image
ED9->ED9->ED9->EE8->EG8 DX->EK3->BB1->CG9->DC2->Astra F->EK3->BB1

User avatar
vanzep
Supporter 2016
Posts: 7152
Joined: Sun Jan 29, 2012 6:38 pm
My Generation: 4G
Location: Edinburgh
Has thanked: 309 times
Been thanked: 513 times

62MM 5th Gen Throttle Body Fitted

Post by vanzep » Sat Feb 04, 2017 3:43 pm

I was meant to be fitting a new radiator to another lude today but the guy cancelled at the last minute so i decided to press ahead and fit the 62mm 5th Gen Throttle Body and thermal gasket on my own BB4.
@Merlin had put me straight on the vaccum connections and i just used a tight fitting push rivet to blank off the old MAP sensor location. :)
Initially when i looked in the engine bay i couldnt quite work it out as i had removed the resonator and tidied up all the vaccum connections a while back but i had with me the the old resonator vaccum tank and hoses so quickly worked out i just had to put the t piece back in ahead of the plastic valve thingy and use a bit of hose to take a vaccum from one of the pipes ontop of the intake manifold. ;)
All in all the job was straight forward and after fitting i didnt need to bleed the coolant or make any adjustments.
Id say this was a worthwhile mild modification - just the way i like it!
Pick up is more instantaneous and a has slightly deeper exhaust note.
Fast idle is spot on and so is the hot idle.
Ive not been out to do a high speed test run but im sure there will be some small gains in terms of performance.

Some pics
Plastic push rivet used to blank where the 5th gen MAP sensor was.
Image

T piece hose joiner ahead of the valve thingy (4th gen 60mm tb still in place)
Image
Image

Type S intake now fits the throttle body better - was a very tight fit.
Image

Completed installation pic
Image

Fast Idle at 1500rpm and hot idle at 750rpm
Image
lewie fraser wrote:Give it a better clean before it goes on ;)
I'd proberly repaint it silver again :lol:

When you fit your atr manifold I ll buy this off you when it's modified to fit the h22a inlet :lol:
I did clean the inside of the tb but left the outside for you to do lewie :lol:
TheHondaTuner wrote:If you dont mess up the sensors it cant get worse with a slightly bigger TB. Why did you choose these discs? Any good experience yet?
No sensor issues - i reckon this is a worthwhile modification.

I got the front discs for nothing as i think the guy who had them wasnt sure if they would fit the lude(he said they were very expensive high carbon discs)...VTTR dont seem to list this part anymore so no info on it except what i measured prior to fitting.
Brakes are excellent in daily driving conditions but will have to wait and see how they fare on track - ive got them set up with standard pagid pads but might go for a pad upgrade at some point. :)
1996-2000 1993 EG9 Blue Civic 1.6 Vti - Traded in against the BB4
2000-2019 1994 2WS BB4 Milano Red JDM Prelude Si VTEC LSD

2015 on > 1991 4WS BB1 Phantom Pearl Grey JDM Prelude Si VTEC LSD
2021 ON > 1998 2WS BB6 White Pearl JDM Prelude Si VTEC

Post Reply

Return to “Lude Profiles”