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Post by **Thebusofwoe** » Tue May 13, 2014 7:13 pm

Yea I hope it is

89 UKDM BA4 4WS (resto job!) · Post by **wurlycorner** » Tue May 13, 2014 7:19 pm

Yeah, surely if the oil pump is noisy enough to be heard, oil pressure would be low enough to put the oil light on; noise=wear=larger gap between components=oil being squeezed out of the pump at significantly reduced pressure...

Post by **Thebusofwoe** » Tue May 13, 2014 7:35 pm

Yea i thought that. As there is no bearings in the pump i don't think? I'm just panicking as all ive had is problems with it up to now. I will be taking the rocker cover off tomorrow after work now as if the belt is loose, i don't wana be driving it like it

andypont · Post by **andypont** » Tue May 13, 2014 8:01 pm

Keep the faith and don't lose hope with it. Will be worth the grief once it's sorted. Fingers crossed it is just the belt.

Post by **Thebusofwoe** » Wed May 14, 2014 6:42 pm

Guys. I have asked this before but is there anyone that have kept balancer shafts in but removed the belt. I have found the cause of the noise and the front balancer shaft is moving in and out by around 5-10mm causing this noise. I should stop it if i run it without the balancer belt. From what i can see in the manual the shaft has thrust washers and my guess is they have worn out!! Going to change the oil too.

Post by **si import** » Wed May 14, 2014 8:02 pm

ive been running mine with the shafts still in but no belt for some time now . i no a few others have aswell with no problems

89 UKDM BA4 4WS (resto job!) · Post by **wurlycorner** » Wed May 14, 2014 8:07 pm

Is it the balancer shaft that has the Honda 'oil seal retainer' mod, or was that something else?
If so, is this fitted on yours @thebusofwoe ?

EDIT:
Yes it is the balancer shaft that has the retainer mod...

Loose shaft;

Balancer shaft seal retainer version 1;

Balancer shaft seal retainer version 2?;

Errr... nice job on balancer shaft delete;

Post by **Thebusofwoe** » Wed May 14, 2014 8:34 pm

si import wrote:ive been running mine with the shafts still in but no belt for some time now . i no a few others have aswell with no problems

Thanks matey. I have removed the belt now and left the shafts in there. Runs sweet, and no more noises.

wurlycorner wrote:
Is it the balancer shaft that has the Honda 'oil seal retainer' mod, or was that something else?
If so, is this fitted on yours @Thebusofwoe ?

EDIT:
Yes it is the balancer shaft that has the retainer mod...

Loose shaft;

Balancer shaft seal retainer version 1;

Balancer shaft seal retainer version 2?;

Errr... nice job on balancer shaft delete;

My shaft doesn't move that much

I have never seen this mod or heard of it!! Is it to retain the seal or the shaft?, as the shaft end float is controlled by thrust washers I think

. Tbh if it's happy without running the shafts I won't bother reconnecting them

Post by **Vtecmec** » Wed May 14, 2014 8:46 pm

The bracket is there to hold the seal, which has a habit of popping off after a belt change.

Post by **Thebusofwoe** » Wed May 14, 2014 8:47 pm

Ah ok. Mine does not have that

Does anyone's else??

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