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Re: Robs 2g BA1 prelude

Post by Rob_Cool1 » Tue Jul 01, 2014 7:32 am

What do you mean by pushed too far and how would I stop it from being over compressed? Yeah the bearing is standard and the levers are all straight :)

A guy at work said because I've lowered it, it might be adding secondary stresses on the clutch, but I don't see how that works :/

Off to an engineering place tomorrow test the flywheel see if the runouts alright and the kits been sent back, just a waiting bLe now lol

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Post by wurlycorner » Tue Jul 01, 2014 10:44 am

jjmartin349571 wrote:There's 2 dowels that locate the box, with them in place and the gearbox bolts torqued up properly how could it be misaligned? :?
Mating faces not flush? Are there any missing stiffener brackets or something like that allowing the gearbox to flex against the engine? Any fractures or cracks in the gearbox or crank casing allowing movement? Crank misaligned after rebuild? (don't know, just guessing out loud...)

Was any work done on the box at any time? Were there any problems with the bottom end after the first rebuild? (I recall there was something that required the engine to go back to the builder, but can't remember what for?)

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Post by jjmartin349571 » Tue Jul 01, 2014 12:51 pm

You've just reminded me Iain, there were a couple of stiffening brackets missing or without bolts, which were like that when Rob got the car :? Rob didn't know they were missing, I only spotted them as I'd recently done the same work on my B20

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Post by wurlycorner » Tue Jul 01, 2014 12:53 pm

Any chance of some pics showing where they should be? Or a link to the exploded parts diagram perhaps?

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Post by jjmartin349571 » Tue Jul 01, 2014 1:05 pm

From memory it was the one at the base of the block that braces the bottom of the bell housing, and the main bracket at the rear which connects the gearbox and block to the large torque damper on the firewall. Rob should be able to confirm.

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Post by wurlycorner » Tue Jul 01, 2014 1:16 pm

jjmartin349571 wrote:From memory it was the one at the base of the block that braces the bottom of the bell housing, and the main bracket at the rear which connects the gearbox and block to the large torque damper on the firewall. Rob should be able to confirm.
Oh...
the one at the base of the block that braces the bottom of the bell housing
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Are we talking No.24 on here?
and the main bracket at the rear which connects the gearbox and block to the large torque damper on the firewall
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And are we talking No.13 on here?

:? If so, to be fair, those are pretty significant items to be missing :think: I don't think I'd want to be doing much more than moving it round the drive without those in situ, otherwise the gearbox will be deflecting on the side of the engine. :?


Also, while I've been looking round the parts diagrams, the cover plate from this drawing looks like it bolts onto both the block and the gearbox (as opposed to just the gearbox bell housing) so that would add some stiffening too.
Is that in place too and all bolts there?
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Post by jjmartin349571 » Tue Jul 01, 2014 1:34 pm

Yes, number 24 in the first diagram.

The second diagram it wasn't number 13. I meant the top torque bar was missing, and I think the scaffoldy bit that goes up to it was too. I did mention to Rob that he'd want to sort that as it's the main thing stopping the whole engine from shifting on it's 3 lower mounts.

I think Rob needs to take a glance under his car to confirm all this though, it was a while back now and it was dark and I was lying in a puddle getting rained on :lol:

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Re: Robs 2g BA1 prelude

Post by Rob_Cool1 » Tue Jul 01, 2014 7:27 pm

yeah i got the top torque damper back and thats all connected up fine, unsure about the lower one for the bell housing il have to look in a bit. but from memory taking it apart the other day i dont think it was there, do you have a pic jjmartin so i can check lol? that might be the problem then :/

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Post by Rob_Cool1 » Tue Jul 01, 2014 10:24 pm

yeah i have the bracket for the front of the bell housing but there were no bolts in it when i removed it (applies for every time) i duno why i let that pass my mind, il get some new bolts tomorrow for it.

Also here's a couple of pics of the flywheel:

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not really sure if that looks ok or not lol

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Post by wurlycorner » Tue Jul 01, 2014 10:30 pm

Rob_Cool1 wrote:that might be the problem then :/
Well it won't be helping, that's for sure. If you have the bracket, that's a result - bolts will be easier to source than the bracket 8-)

The flywheel looks ok to me? Difficult to tell from pics though. Looks like it has a bit of friction plate burn on it (the larger spots you can see in the second pic). Is that a noticeable lip on the inner edge of the wearing face?

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