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A1ex · Post by **A1ex** » Sat Jan 12, 2013 4:56 pm

Cheers

I had an astra turbo coupe before I got into ludes, basically the same motor as the vxr minus a few horses and couple other bits. Nice car to look at, great on the motorway but corners were a pain in the arse! As was the tyre chewing or trying to pull of quickly in the wet.

I had many moments in that car which went something like this; Oh I've got some grip finally, ah, here comes the 200lb/ft of torque from the turbo at 2000rpm, oh never mind.

craig_jdm · Post by **craig_jdm** » Sat Jan 12, 2013 5:02 pm

LewisH wrote:My last car was rather... scary on corners and it was only N/A. But being a 980kg car with 220bhp at the wheels if caught wrong / trying to accelrate wrong i had nothing other then rubber trying to keep me on the road. My lude will have the 4ws taken off it as well.

The only way i'll know if i like it, is if i do it. Feck sake lol!

Lewis -

980kg and 220 whp n/a what was it ?

A1ex · Post by **A1ex** » Sat Jan 12, 2013 5:02 pm

LewisH wrote:The only way i'll know if i like it, is if i do it. Feck sake lol!

Not telling you what to do bud, just passing on some experience. Here's an idea for you tho;

http://classifieds.pistonheads.com/clas ... 002/992022

This is the silver version of my old car. Before you throw £1500 at sleeving a block, buy one of these and see if you like high power FWD turbo's first. If you do sell it on, for what would probably be the same price, and build a monster lude knowing you'll be happy with the final product

Or you can tell me to stop talking bollocks, either way

LewisH · Post by **LewisH** » Sat Jan 12, 2013 5:09 pm

Craig, it was a megane coupe F7R (same engine as a williams clio) it had very aggressive high lift cams, solid lifters, ALOT of head work and uprated springs / retainers. Rev'd round to 8500 RPM with a full stainless system and EGR valve taken out (they have these as standard) It went like FECK. But the amount of cash that cost me, and the hassle / stress and unreliability, was just not worth it in the end =(

Lewis -

bristol_bb4 · Post by **bristol_bb4** » Sat Jan 12, 2013 6:36 pm

F7r would have needed throttle bodies to make 220 bhp, trust me

LewisH · Post by **LewisH** » Sat Jan 12, 2013 6:38 pm

I got doubted alot about my coupe, everyone on the forums said "180 with good headwork and cams" sorry but its doable, just costs a small fortune.

Lewis -

bristol_bb4 · Post by **bristol_bb4** » Sat Jan 12, 2013 6:41 pm

But on another note! Noones mentioned turbo lag and throttle response differences between n/a and turbo, if you love instant response and power delivery, stay n/a! Turbo cars drive completely different and different throttle control techniques are needed with the two types of engine while in the twisty bits

LewisH · Post by **LewisH** » Sat Jan 12, 2013 6:43 pm

Yeah. I dunno yet. im sure i will decide one day

This has turned into one good ol conversation!

Lewis -

bristol_bb4 · Post by **bristol_bb4** » Sat Jan 12, 2013 6:44 pm

LewisH wrote:I got doubted alot about my coupe, everyone on the forums said "180 with good headwork and cams" sorry but its doable, just costs a small fortune.

Lewis -

Sorry to be a doubter but no chance mate I had a f7r'd Clio 16v with head work, cat cams, full exhaust and hill power intake and map and it maxed at 192bhp, more compression and tb's for 200+

Post by **Donald** » Sat Jan 12, 2013 6:45 pm

bristol_bb4 wrote:But on another note! Noones mentioned turbo lag and throttle response differences between n/a and turbo, if you love instant response and power delivery, stay n/a! Turbo cars drive completely different and different throttle control techniques are needed with the two types of engine while in the twisty bits

What are you on about.

N/A: foot to the floor and hold on.
Turbo: foot to the floor and hold on.